ChasSomT. Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Has anybody ever seen a power tool used from this socket? What sort of tools were used? It Is 24Volts, isn't it? Thanks Chas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUF Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I had the tools with my abbott, dril, big and small Kango, nut gun but never used them, i belive they were 415volt? something to do with swapping a plug over on the control box or something up the voltage... but hey it was a few years back so cant be sure on voltage..... :undecided: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 If its the same plug, I got one of these...... Sorry poor photo as it is buried under all my parts [ATTACH]35064[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I believe the power tools are owered by a 210 volt 3 phase transformer.. could be wrong.. check out "All Charged Up" in Clives Corner http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?14518-A-list-of-Publications-by-Clive-Elliott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasSomT. Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 Thanks for the replies. FLUF, that rings a bell, I vaguely remember something about 'Parralleling' up the pack alternators by changing a link over. There's a Power Tool Unit on a wiring diagram I've seen somewhere. On a similar note, does anyone know of a 24V compressor made by anyone? That I would find useful! Cheers, Chas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasSomT. Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 Safariswing, thanks for the link to Clive's excellent article. FLUFF, any idea why 2 Kangos and a drill were part of the Abbot's kit? I understand the 'nut wrench'(?), with recuperators, gun balance springs etc. to be undone, but why Kango hammers, and a drill? Chas. (Intrigued!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I'm away from home so can't check the manuals, but I'm pretty sure it was an AC supply of some sort from a transformer off the rear alternator. They were taken out as a modification quite early on, probably because they weren't very safe! The modification removed the transformer but left the wiring and socket in place. Some early FV439s with AC generators (Onans?) used the socket as an external 240V connection with an RCD panel near the BV plug bracket on the right hand side of the door frame. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasSomT. Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 Andy, You've got some manuals, haven't you! Our, later, 439, with Plessey, diesel, 28V DC gennies, doesn't appear to have a BV plug by the back door (@ least, we haven't found it yet) There's nowhere to put the BV near there! We've been told that the BV in ours, lived up front, near the driver. (In the 'YoYos', I expected the BV to be steaming whenever we stopped, so a brew was ALWAYS an option!) I want something to use the nearly 100A, 24V that the gennies make. A compressor is way up the list, a 'fridge tray' for the beers is obviously @ the top, anyone got any other suggestions? A 'Gold Star' (Not the bike!) for the best idea! Cheers, Chas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) Has anybody ever seen a power tool used from this socket? What sort of tools were used?It Is 24Volts, isn't it? Thanks Chas. Chas, There were portable gen sets in the army for operating these same power tools, in 70/80's, commonly known as "high cycles". Would have been used by Combat Engineers I would think. They were 208 volts at 400 Hz, hence the nickname. To use the tools on a 432, the paralleling link is broken by disconnecting the harness from Socket 1 on the Distribution Link Box and connecting the mating harness from the Power Tool Unit to Socket 1. This makes the two alternators operate two different systems. The front alternator operates the power tool circuit and rear alternator operates the vehicle circuit. Edited September 23, 2010 by Richard Farrant rectified mistake regarding alternator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Having had a chance to get home and read the manuals, Richard is correct, the socket provides up to 12kVA at 208V 400Hz from the front alternator after swapping the No. 1 plug in the distribution link box. The link box cable was removed by General Instruction No. 5 for Reason Code 1 - to improve safety. The stated intention was that the power tool transformer, other associated cabling and the output socket would removed at the next base overhaul. That's odd, because I think that every FV430 I've seen has the output socket still in place to the right of the rear door. I don't know if I've still got the link box cable or transformer in my FV432, I'll have to look next time I visit. The Operating Information for Radio Relay Installation in FV439 says that mains connection to the RRI(T) is through the import mains socket (power tool socket) located at the rear RH side of the door. So if you've got an RRI(T) FV439 your power tool socket may not be quite what it seems! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasSomT. Posted September 23, 2010 Author Share Posted September 23, 2010 Thank you Richard, more useful info. Thank you Andy, you must have a Huge library. What with Sir Clive's excellent articles (I've printed them all off!) there is a wealth of information on this forum. Thank you everyone. Chas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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